It also has another, more complex optional chart for new saves based on intelligence.ДЄffects humans, demihumans, and certain giant-class creatures (no larger than ogres) Same as Basic in the description, but the extra rules in chapter 13 suggest the target can make a new roll if the target is put in danger that the caster is not in. Until Dispel or Save, or if caster attacks target. вЂњ Orders against its nature (alignment or habits) may be resisted, and an order to kill itself will be refusedвЂќ вЂњ bugbears, gnolls, gnomes, goblins, hobgoblins, kobolds, lizard men, ogres, pixies, or spritesвЂќ It does not affect the undead or large monsters.вЂќДЄffects any non-undead human or human-like creature no larger than an ogre. Save when cast, after that, gives target saves based on intelligence.ДЄffects вЂњtwo legged, generally mammalian humanoids of approximately man size including sprites, pixies, nixies, kobolds, goblins, orcs, hobgoblins and gnolls. States that target is вЂњcompletely under the influence of the Magic-UserвЂќ. вЂњincluding Sprites, Pixies, Nixies, Kobolds, Goblins, Orcs, Hobgoblins and Gnolls.вЂќ Suggests, but doesnвЂ™t actually state that target gets a saving throw when spell is cast.ДЄffects one two-legged non-undead mammalian near or less than man-size.

IвЂ™ve added a column with my best interpretation of whether a ogre can be charmed in each system with the charm person spell. My assumption is that somewhere in the ancient days of D&D, some band of grognards running a dungeon crawl found themselves embroiled in an angry argument about charming ogres, and it ended up influencing game systems going forward. While generating it, I noticed a lot of D&D/OSR systems use ogres as a dividing line (вЂњno larger than a ogreвЂќ) as to whether or not a particular creature can be charmed or not. For no particular reason, IвЂ™ve put together a comparison chart of the charm person spell between most early editions of D&D and all of the OSR games I own.

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